掀桌子或者打地基,视题主是乐观主义还是悲观主义而定:

中国民用航空局航空器适航审定司-适航指令查询系统?

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不管什么飞机,从来没有什么「安全可靠」,只有可以接受的风险、不能接受的风险和还没发现的风险。


看航司和飞行员!国内的航司和飞行员的话,737-max8都没问题?何况737-800。东南亚非洲南美原苏联的航司就不保证了。


机组敢飞你还不敢坐?

别瞎想。真心里受不了就换高铁呗。


出事的是737max8,不是737-800

737-800简称738是世界上最火的飞机,目前超过1000架运营。737max8是2016年才试飞的飞机。别看都有737,8,但是本次事故类似于

a厂家草莓味薯片调味剂有问题,a厂家香菜味薯片没问题。虽然都是a厂家生产的薯片,但是有本质上的区别(调味剂不同),所以大可放心

如果还是不放心,出事的飞机上故障软体737-800没有,中国飞行员手动驾驶能力都很高

飞机是最安全的交通工具


应该比较安全。

出问题的是737max8或者9,国内编号是737-8或者737-9。

即使737max复飞了,也不建议乘坐,最好的结果就是把他改成货机,废物利用,然后不再买这款飞机,其中的损失指望波音赔偿希望不大,因为他赔了基本就破产了。

737-800是老飞机,使用这么多年没有听说出过大的问题。

737max其实是波音准备研发一款新飞机和空客竞争,但是成本太高——主要是过检太麻烦,耗时又花钱,为了走捷径,波音想出来一个奇葩的好主意,那就是用老飞机来改,这样好多检验就不搞了,又快又省钱,监管部门对于新飞机肯定盯得比较紧,老飞机新改造的自然会松一点。这就是737max出问题的原因。

因为每款飞机都要做风洞试验验证其飞行状态,然后做成样机实际飞一下,看看有什么问题。别看飞机这么大,实际使用条件还是很苛刻的,比如很多乘客都赶上过免费升舱,就是从后面的经济舱升级到前面的头等舱,一般人家说的都是客套话:尊重顾客啊,让顾客体验啊,实际上因为头等舱没卖出去,空著也浪费,做个好人说不定拉个常客呢。其实还有更重要的原因就是配重,人都坐后面,前面空著会导致飞机重心变更,出问题的概率会增加一点,既然能无成本降低一点事故概率,请你免费升舱就是理所当然了。

一个人才几十千克都有一点影响,行李箱的配重更不用说,哪些货物要布置在哪,都是专业人士搞,专业人士要根据其重量和体积(重心)来分配,不能瞎搞,个人托运行李都要称重,也是给货仓配重一个准确数据。

那么,737max就是在737的机型上更换了发动机,新的发动机重量和重心都不一样,老飞机做的风洞试验就没用了,以往运行积累的参数也没用了,你看737max的发动机底下凹进去一块,就是因为新发动机尺寸更大,装在机翼下影响离地距离所以做了变更,可想而知,这款飞机为了省钱,糊弄到了什么程度。

等到样机飞起来,发现糟糕了,由于重量和重心相对老机型都有很大的变化,飞起来很不稳,飞行员需要不停手动调整,机头高了压下来,机头低了拉起来,这样哪能卖出去?

怎么办?放弃?重新设计?那么前期几亿美元没了,后期重新设计要花几十亿美元,拖延时间竞争对手占了先机,几百亿美元没了,哪能放弃?

于是,奇葩的波音想出来更加奇葩的解决方法,硬体有问题软体解决,飞机不是重心不稳机头忽高忽低吗?加个软体,检测到异样自动让飞机反向操作。这个东西能让飞行员知道吗?当然不能,所以软体运行时飞行员手动干预的许可权被取消。于是两架飞机掉下来,几百人玩蛋。

中国为什么反应这么快,因为前期有过类似故障(似乎是乌鲁木齐到广州的航班),幸好控制住没出事,但是一上报,业内人士肯定有疑惑要分析,到底是偶然故障还是设计问题,这个不好估计,等到两次事故,症状和设计问题的猜测一致,马上停飞。

回过头想一想,波音没来由的增加一个飞控软体是吃错药了,这种买卖,增加一个螺钉他都会增加好多售价,一个先进高级的飞控软体成本是多少,莫名其妙的用在一款新机型上,他们是良心发现?不可能,一定有不可告人的原因,那就是飞机有硬体问题而且解决不了。

所以不管后续怎么吹,这款飞机的硬体问题是不可能改的,软体再怎么改都是弥补漏洞而不是提高性能,至于弥补到什么程度天知道。

所以,老机型的737-800没问题这个是实践检验过的,737-8绝对有问题也是实践检验过而且理论上无法解决的。


只要乘坐国内航班,极大可能遇到两种机型,738和321,特别是在飞除北上广深成渝以外的机场。


你可以放心地去坐 737-800至少在目前是一款安全的飞机 很多航空公司都在用


737系列只有max有问题,737-700和737-800是播音系列中最成功的两个机型,安全运营十几年了,放心的坐吧~


出事的是max这个型号

737-800已经服役好久了

安全的


不要坐800,很危险,我坐过的型号里面唯一让我觉得危险的飞机,抖的很严重,还引发了我唯一一次气压性鼻窦炎,当时感觉真是要死了。维基百科事故列表如下:

Fatal accidents[edit]

  • September 29, 2006: Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907, a brand-new 737-800 with 154 people on board broke up and crashed following a midair collision in Brazil with an Embraer Legacy 600. All on board the 737-800 were killed. The Legacy landed safely at a Brazilian Air Force base.[96]
  • May 5, 2007: Kenya Airways Flight 507, a 737-800 carrying 105 passengers and nine crew lost contact and crashed into a swamp on a flight to Nairobi, Kenya from Abidjan, C?te dIvoire, after making a scheduled stop at Douala, Cameroon. There were no survivors.
  • February 25, 2009: Turkish Airlines Flight 1951, a 737-800 coming from Istanbul, crashed in a field near the Polderbaan while attempting to land at Amsterdams Schiphol Airport. The fuselage broke into three pieces after the crash and the engine pylons separated. Of the 135 passengers and crew, there were nine fatalities: five passengers and four crew members (including both pilots and a pilot-in-training); 84 people suffered injuries. Crash investigations initially focused on a malfunctioning left radar altimeter, which may have resulted in false altitude information causing the autothrottle to reduce power.[97]
  • January 25, 2010: Ethiopian Airlines Flight 409, a 737-800, crashed into the Mediterranean Sea shortly after take-off from Beirut Rafic Hariri International Airport. The flight had 90 passengers and 8 crew, 50 passengers of whom were Lebanese, and was bound for the Ethiopian capital of Addis Ababa. There were no survivors.[98][99]

Wreckage of Air India Express Flight 812, in which 158 people died

  • May 22, 2010: Air India Express Flight 812, a 737-800, overran the runway on landing at Mangalore International Airport, killing 158 passengers including six crew on board. There were eight survivors. The airliner crashed through the fence at the end of the runway going into a valley 200 feet below. Although the 8,000 ft runway is sufficient for landing there was no bare land at the end of the runway on the table top airport to account for mistakes.[100][101][102]
  • March 19, 2016: Flydubai Flight 981, a 737-800 flying from Dubai, United Arab Emirates to Rostov-on-Don, Russia, crashed on the final approach to Rostov-on-Don Airport in inclement weather. All 62 people on board died.[104]
  • September 28, 2018: Air Niugini Flight 73, a 737-800, on a flight from Pohnpei, Federated States of Micronesia, to Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea, with an intermediate stop at Chuuk International Airport, undershot the runway at Chuuk and landed in a lagoon. One of the 47 occupants died.[105]

Wreckage of Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752
  • January 8, 2020: Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752 operated by a Boeing 737-800, crashed shortly after taking off from Imam Khomeini International Airport in Tehran, Iran, bound for Kiev, Ukraine. There were no survivors among the 167 passengers and 9 crew.[106][107] On January 11, 2020, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps admitted in a statement that they had "unintentionally" shot down the plane because of human error.[108]
  • February 5, 2020: Pegasus Airlines Flight 2193 operated by a Boeing 737-800, on a flight from ?zmir,[109] skidded off the runway at Istanbul Sabiha G?k?en International Airport before splitting into three pieces of fuselage, injuring 179 people and killing 3.[110]

Hull losses[edit]

  • August 20, 2007: China Airlines Flight 120, a 737-800 inbound from Taipei, caught fire shortly after landing at Naha Airport on the Japanese island of Okinawa. There were no fatalities. Following this accident, the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) issued an Emergency Airworthiness Directive (EAD) on August 25 ordering inspection of all Boeing 737NG series aircraft for loose components in the wing leading edge slats within 24 days. On August 28, after initial reports from these inspections, the FAA issued a further EAD requiring a detailed borescope inspection within 10 days, and an explicit tightening of a nut-and-bolt assembly within 24 days.[111]

China Airlines Flight 120
  • November 10, 2008: Ryanair Flight 4102, a 737-800 from Frankfurt-Hahn suffered substantial damage in an emergency landing at Rome Ciampino Airport. The cause of the accident was stated to be birdstrikes affecting both engines. The port undercarriage of the 737 collapsed.[112] Of the six crew and 166 passengers on board,[113] two crew and eight passengers were taken to hospital with minor injuries.[114] The engines and undercarriage were damaged along with the rear fuselage by contact with the runway.[115]
  • December 22, 2009: American Airlines Flight 331, a 737-800 (registration N977AN) overran the runway at Norman Manley International Airport in Kingston, Jamaica during a landing hampered by poor weather. The aircraft continued on the ground outside the airport perimeter and broke apart causing injuries. All 154 persons on board survived.
  • July 30, 2011: Caribbean Airlines Flight 523, a 737-800, overran the runway in rainy weather and crashed through the perimeter fence while landing at Cheddi Jagan International Airport in Guyana. The aircraft broke into two at the forward fuselage. There were no fatalities, but several passengers were injured with at least two passengers suffering broken legs.[116][117][118] Caribbean Airlines confirmed 157 passengers and 6 crew members were on board.[119]
  • October 14, 2012: Corendon Airlines Flight 773, a 737-800, TC-TJK, sustained substantial fire damage to the cockpit at Antalya Airport in Turkey. The fire started in the flightdeck during push-back from the gate. There were 189 passengers and 7 crew on board; 27 passengers were hospitalized, with 2 serious injuries reported from the emergency evacuation.[120]
  • April 13, 2013: Lion Air Flight 904, a 737-800 (registration PK-LKS) operating from Bandung to Denpasar in Indonesia with 108 people on board, undershot runway 09 and crashed into the sea while landing at Ngurah Rai International Airport. The aircraft』s fuselage ruptured slightly near the wings. All passengers and crew were safely evacuated with only minor injuries.[121]
  • July 22, 2013: Southwest Airlines Flight 345, a 737-700, suffered a nosegear collapse while landing at LaGuardia Airport after touching down nosegear first due to pilot error; the nosegear collapsed upward into the fuselage, causing severe damage to the electronics bay. Of the 150 people on board, nine were injured during evacuation; the $15.5 million aircraft was written off.
  • January 13, 2018: Pegasus Airlines Flight 8622, a 737-800, slid off the runway at Trabzon Airport while landing in rain. There were no fatalities.
  • August 16, 2018: Xiamen Airlines Flight 8667, a 737-800 (registration B-5498), crash-landed at Manilas Ninoy Aquino International Airport, Philippines during heavy monsoon rains. The 737-800 skidded off the end of the runway, causing left engine and main gear to collapse. All 157 passengers and crew safely evacuated.[122][123]
  • September 1, 2018: Utair Flight 579, a 737-800, on a flight from Vnukovo International Airport with 164 passengers and 6 crew, overran the runway and caught fire while landing at Sochi International Airport, injuring 18 people.[124]
  • May 3, 2019: Miami Air Flight 293, a Boeing 737-800, a military charter flight from Guantanamo Bay to Naval Air Station Jacksonville with 143 passengers and crew, skidded off the runway into the St. Johns River in shallow waters attempting to land during a thunderstorm, there were 21 minor injuries but no fatalities.


原本以为737除了MAX都很安全。

结果,新的新闻出来了。大量737NG,机翼零件不合格。

波音表示,有148个前缘缝翼导轨的零部件存在问题,该公司认为这些缺陷可能会影响20架737 MAX和21架737 NG。但是,FAA则要求检查全球179架737MAX机型和133架737NG机型。

美国的制造业肯定出了问题了。绝不仅仅是新型号才有风险。老型号,新生产的。或者老飞机换了新零件的。都有风险。

看来。以后,要选那些飞了五六年且没有换过大零件的737了。目前是查不到了。能不能请航空公司公布以上信息呢?

针对737,完全值得这样做去给客户信心啊。

http://news.hexun.com/2019-06-03/197400108.html?

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刚刚坠毁了一架,感觉你的担心很合理


当然可靠,国内国外多少航空主流都是737-800


非常可靠,737-800是国内最常见,使用最为广泛的民航客机之一,飞行安全记录很好。


查了是这个机型


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