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這幾天肖戰粉絲大量舉報博君一肖某位作者發表在ao3上的一篇同人文(舉報人數估計過千),原因是此篇文章涉及未成年人性行為和嫖娼等敏感話題且在微博平台傳播較廣(轉贊評均在5000+)。這個行為遭到了很多人的攻擊,說文學創作應當自由,不能因為個人不喜歡就去舉報,不能濫用公權力來泄憤。

個人覺得類似事件是18年墨香銅臭被舉報事件。18年耽美作者墨香銅臭也是因為撰寫並非法出版涉及淫穢色情的個人志被原耽圈讀者大量舉報且因此入獄(是否入獄存有疑問),但此次舉報行為被視為正義行為。

所以,對於舉報這件事我感到疑惑,舉報這個行為本身是否正義或正確?什麼情況下才能行使舉報的權利?如果自己在用戶量大的公共社交平台上發現了自認為會產生不良影響的圖文頻,對此進行舉報是做錯了嗎?

【相關問題】

如何看待「匿名舉報」??

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舉報行為是否「正義」,完全取決於負責處置舉報的執行者是否「正義」。

如果官方層面的執法從白色的「秉公執法」變成了灰色的「選擇性執法」,那麼民間層面的舉報也必然也會從白色的「守護秩序」變為灰色的「打壓異己」。

換句話說,如果舉報的受理者就沒打算主持公平正義的話,那麼舉報行為本身也沒有公平正義可言。

這件事情上沒人應當裝外賓。

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微博上問我:你嘲諷舉報,那舉報貪官也不行么?

當然行。舉報貪官、舉報食品安全、舉報老師私下補習都可以。

但你發現沒,這種舉報得靠身邊人拿出實錘才能成功。

一群網友拿著網上看到幾句隻言片語就瞎胡舉報,到處嚷嚷「實錘了」,可以說屁用沒有。

現在網友們比較擅長的是:量子超視距舉報。

我也沒見過你,我也不認識這人,上網刷到了,反正我就要舉報。

隔著十萬八千里,幾張圖就能定你的罪,還能看出來你啥動機。

網友們可能不知道,很多人上法庭拿出來所謂實錘的錄音,都不能作為證據採信。

你這個錄音來源合不合法?裡面錄下來那幾句話是不是就是你理解的意思?上下文是什麼?有沒有剪輯的可能?

一個環節對不上都不行。

當然光批評中國網民也不合理,這事兒全人類都差不多。

當年愛因斯坦在美國期間,遭到一位美國婦女舉報,說他「通蘇」。

那個時候美國麥卡錫主義盛行,通蘇是很嚴重的指控。

這位婦女認識他么?不認識。

為什麼要舉報?

因為她給愛因斯坦寫信,問他「數學怎麼用來分析彩票中獎號碼」。

很顯然這種信不可能會被理。

然後婦女無能狂怒。前一秒鐘還是客客氣氣寫信請教,下一秒憤然脫粉。

粉轉路人!我舉報你通蘇!你屁股歪了!

扣帽子誰不會啊。

這還不是個例,美國聯邦調查局裡關於愛因斯坦的舉報材料,有十四箱。

全是這種超視距舉報。

材料不老少,屁用沒有。

調查局挨個看了,一點有價值的材料都沒。

這很簡單,如果真有事兒,隔著十萬八千里都能被你一個路人發現,那早被更近的發現了。

真該舉報的,反而完全沒舉報出來。

愛因斯坦晚年喪妻後,和一個蘇聯女士交往過,後來發現那是蘇聯情報人員。

當然愛因斯坦也沒泄露什麼情報,曼哈頓工程這些核心工作他也沒參與。

十四箱信,一封提到的都沒有,美國聯邦調查局都沒發現。

後來還是女士回去了,愛因斯坦寫了情書,大家才知道這一段。

所以,網路上喜歡捕風捉影搞舉報的,你真想發揚正義感,別搞這種跨時空打擊,你多關心關心周圍。

有老師侵犯女學生,你能不能站出來發聲。

校園裡有同學被欺負,你願不願意幫忙反映。

有領導挪用費用,你敢不敢提供實錘。

一群實際生活碰到人遛狗不清理狗屎都不敢上前說兩句的人,網上小嘴叭叭的扯什麼大是大非屁股腦袋。

你可拉倒吧。


聚焦於舉報行為是否正確偏離了問題要害。換一個例子就很清楚了,只要有司法制度,就一定有誣告的、有濫訟的以及各種各樣濫用司法資源、浪費司法資源的情況。這是無法徹底避免的事,任何一種制度既會被一些人正確使用,也必然被另一些人濫用或者蓄意的錯誤使用。但是這些並不意味著司法制度在整體上是錯誤的,也不意味著普通人不應該通過訴諸司法制度主張自己的權益。

值得注意的重點是,怎麼樣的司法制度是符合實體和程序正義的、怎麼樣的司法制度可以保護所有人的基本權利、怎麼樣的司法制度可以盡量排除誣告和濫訟造成的負面影響。


This is not about justice or injustice. Its about how the world runs.

Basically you could try anything no matter right or wrong. You just pay for it. Somehow, someday. Everything has a price. You do it, you pay for it. Sometimes you cant afford; sometimes you dont know until the bill comes; sometimes you are not benefitted from your attempts. You still have to pay no matter what. Just as you did it no matter right or wrong. Everything has a price, even justice itself.

So think it over. Someone wrote something you dont like, and perhaps was illegal. OK, she pays for it when you screw it up in name of "Justice". But whats next? You pay for your behavior as she screws you back. And then of course she pays for her revenge whatever... Again I am not talking about good or bad. I am not justifying violations of law or revenges in any sense. Even if shes wrong, youre right, so what? The problem is, you could get hurt in the battle. You risked yourself for what? What did you want in the first place? Did you get it after all? Was it worth it?

You win only if youre a real friend of justice. But in case what you really wanted was a good reputation of your favorite TV star, ratting and fucking around were absolutely not wise moves. Its not about that youre telling truth or lie, doing right or wrong. By "speaking up for him", you are simply putting him in trouble, starting a war with his name, taking shit in his face with your own asshole. Because of you, thousands of people are keeping eyes on him and trying to dig out his mistakes, which may destroy his career in the same way you did on their important things. You want that? Losing so much, just for taking down a stupid gayporn that you could have ignored?

Yeah, a "stupid gayporn". To you, they are coming after your sweetheart just for a stupid gayporn which shouldnt have existed. Whats wrong with these people? Its fairly easy. To those people, you have ruined their homeland just for a stupid actor they didnt know and didnt fucking care about, and there is no way to make it up, ever. Then you have to pay for it, and that could be a lot.

People live in different ways, treasure different things. You dont need to understand everyone. You dont need everyone to understand you. All you need to do is to respect other people. Just know where the boundary is and stay the fuck on your side.

Many people - usually teenagers, are not aware of this rule. They have never worried about losing anything since their parents have always been paying for what they wanted. Thats why they act stupid.

In theory you always could find something from textbook that supporting youre right. In practice, if you lose something you dont expect to lose, without getting the thing you want to get, then probably you are doing wrong.


我個人的想法是,現在的網路舉報大大降低了舉報的門檻和成本,讓很多不懂"舉報"真正含義的人把它當作排除異己的工具,這是很悲哀的。

我個人對平台的小小建議,當一個賬號發起舉報這個行為的時候:

1.對於初次進行舉報行為的人,首先得通過一個"舉報行為規範"的課程,告訴這些人,什麼東西什麼程度才能舉報,並且舉一些事件和例子,整個教程式控制制在半小時以內,通過答題結束教程。

2. 教程結束之後,進入舉報流程,這個流程可以變得複雜一點,比如希望舉報人寫下不少於50字的舉報理由,同時說明舉報內容是通過什麼渠道看見的。這個流程有一定可能過濾掉無腦舉報的人。

3. 請舉報人留下姓名和聯繫方式,但平台方不會像任何人泄露你的信息(別說泄露信息哈,你註冊賬號的時候平台已經獲取你的信息了),還是當作匿名舉報。這種做法一方面告訴大家舉報這個行為是很嚴肅的,另一方面可以合併重複舉報。

4. 最後,根據賬號的註冊時間和舉報記錄,決定這個舉報的權重。比如,註冊時間小於一個月算作無效舉報; 之前有過多次低質量舉報的記錄(最後舉報內容被判舉報失敗)的人,一次舉報乘以低質量舉報佔比。

這樣一來雖然加大了舉報程序的負擔,但實際上確能減少很多低質量舉報,同時,平台有義務普及"舉報"的相關知識和法律後果。

一點拙見,大家別笑話。


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